Firadiz - Flight Log chitchat and gab fest

[swatson144]

Radd's is a good way to get in the air and not spend any time on repairs. If you have a budget (either money or time) the hobby eventually becomes "boredom driven" later so it may as well be earlier.

Steve

[Firadiz]

Radd's is a good way to get in the air and not spend any time on repairs

I hoping that's true, but I also feel that sometimes crashes are inevetable in which repairs are a good thing as it allows the pilot to become more familiar with the innards of their pride and joy, especially with RTF's. This will help the new beginner to advance as a novice and give them the experience of building a heli in the future. I hope that I will not get bored with this hobby. I'm the type of person who gets easily amused at little things lol.

[swatson144]

I don't mean to imply that boredom driven is a bad thing. On the contrary it is a survival instinct that is developed. Say you start with the king sliding around on the floor and when you get bored with sliding around (pretty quick) Radd's wants you to keep at it for a few more packs. You get bored, but as soon as you get the thing off the floor for several seconds you'll be jazzed and work on the tail in for a while. You'll get bored with tail in and move on to something else. Probably the second most seen Q (after "which 1st heli") is "I can hover now what?".

Yep crashes are inevitable and are what teaches that particular survival instinct. I crash once or twice a month the only difference between now and a couple years ago is I usually know it's likely to happen before the sequence is initiated. My X400s have tilled soil so often it's a wonder they don't run off when I reach for one of them.

Steve

[Firadiz]

You do make a good point and I agree 100% with you. Today when I was burning battery packs, it felt easy to cheat. "I can increase the throttle a little more" I would hear myself saying. But, I would not increase a liitle more, for the fear that the heli would take over and crash. This fear, or should I say disappointment, would be realized when I have to order parts that would take a week to come in. The CX2, I kind of jumped into trying to do manuevers right off the bat. Most would end up in crashing. When I bought the HBK2, I told myself to learn to fly, instead flying at the seat of my pants. Even though a crash now may cost me upto $30, I eventually want to get a nitro .50-.90 scale, which crashes can cost more than $100.
I guess that is why people do 3D flying, to alleviate that boredom.

[Firadiz]

Just ordered the BL system for the HBK2 with the 10T, later I'll get a higher T when learning 3D. But for now, it's still basics/.

[swatson144]

On the Corona, If the boom bent straighten it. Right over the knee. If it's crimped just stuff a 3/8" dowel down it to remove the crimp.

Or did you have much fun and crash a few times and let the boom protector rotate? :doubt:

Steve

[Firadiz]

I might be able to straighten it out, the dowel sounds like a good idea. I guess when it crashed the blade broke one of the zipties and the other blade hit the boom on the same crash. These are the long tailbooms? I'd figure I'd order a couple for JIC.

[swatson144]

Yep long booms. The short anythings are for the LMH 110/117

Steve

[swatson144]

The 9650 is a premium servo and great for the tail I think they are about 60$ but a gear set is about 10$ Sounds like stripped gears though so far I haven't been able to strip a S9650 on the tail.

Steve

[Firadiz]

Yeah, I really kind of surprised too. I'm hoping Debbies has them in stock (servo or gear set), but if they don't what other tail servo would be a good substitute that they would have in stock?
I don't think it is a gyro problem. When I move rudder input it doesn't go to the right, and when it goes to the left, it is real sluggish to go back to neutral

[swatson144]

Have it apart and look. No point in buying a servo if it's a gear set, no point in buying a gear set if it is a servo.

You can also use an servo extension to bypass the gyro to make sure.

IMO the 9650 is heads out the best on a corona but a HS-81 works good too.


Steve

[Firadiz]

I agree with you 100%. I stopped at Debbies and they had the Servo, just not the gear set to replace stripped gears, Online order only which would take about 1 wk to arrive at store.
Due to the wagging, is there a chance that when it hit, the gyro got knocked off of alignment, and need to change gain? If so, how do I change the gain on that gyro with the stock Esky controller...IOW is how do you change the rate manually on the gyro? The sensor dosen't have anything to turn to change, and I didn't see one for the Rx for the gyro in front of the Tx RX?
Thanks for your help Steve...and the Corona:D. I really love it, and was awesome that I was able to keep her in the air for longer then 10 seconds.:D:D:D

[swatson144]

When setting up the Cx2 I adjust the main motor proportional screw on 3:1 to get it to not yaw in either direction, then adjust the gyro to where it is tail holding, not drifting. When I hover, It yaws to the left, I adjust the trim to hold straight. Then the heli yaws in the other direction, adjust trim to hold straight. Then it goes back again. It seems that I can not get her to hold straight, even with trim adjustment. Any ideas?

Hmmm Sounds like you aren't thinking of the propo in the correct manner. Think of it as throttle to rudder mix. when you gas it hard it should keep the tail somewhat under control and when you let off and let it sink it should still keep it in control. Sounds more like a low gain than propo.

A tail is gonna drift a little while hovering and that's part of the reason we have rudder control. In FF there is more of a tendency for the rate gyro to weather vane and stay in line. I says "just trim it close and fly it"lol

Steve

[Firadiz]

Hmmm...I try messing with the Gyro again, and see if that will tweak it.

A tail is gonna drift a little while hovering and that's part of the reason we have rudder control.

Especially in GE, and it also helps with learning. I didn't want her to be perfectly still, but I thought something was wrong when it keeps yawing to different sides after I adjust the trim. It was kind of like a slow wagging, which part of me thought, for a second, too much gyro, but what your saying makes sense as well. I'll have to play with it tomarrow as my Lipo's are charging now. Thanks a bunch Steve.