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dawin2122
04-16-2009, 10:42 AM
Hi guys i need to know if is possible use a align speed control with a esky brusless motor? thanks

basic
04-16-2009, 01:02 PM
which controller and which motor? Generally speaking, it's ok to mix and match esc /motor - for example i have a cheap chinese esc running my align 430l in the trex - but you have to be sure the esc can handle the number of amps the motor is going to want to pull.

mtpenguin
04-16-2009, 01:24 PM
You sure don't want to use an 'ailing' ESC in your heli. Unless of course your testing the effect of impacts with the ground.

< kidding of course >

B-)

dawin2122
04-16-2009, 01:29 PM
which controller and which motor? Generally speaking, it's ok to mix and match esc /motor - for example i have a cheap chinese esc running my align 430l in the trex - but you have to be sure the esc can handle the number of amps the motor is going to want to pull.
thanks for the reply the motor is ek5-0006
25A
3800 kv

dawin2122
04-16-2009, 01:31 PM
You sure don't want to use an 'ailing' ESC in your heli. Unless of course your testing the effect of impacts with the ground.

< kidding of course >

B-)

what esc did you recomended in my bee king 2 because the esc is almost new only try to hovering and burn out

ranger306ci
04-16-2009, 02:03 PM
Ok, you want an esc that will handle at least 25 amps.
I will tell you things to look for, and will also give you a couple of esc's that will fit the bill.
1) want one that is rated for the battery you are using(i.e. if running a 3s lipo, make sure the esc is good for 3s)
2) You want one that is programmable, especially if it has a brake. Lots of esc can be used for both helis and planes; planes use brake to fold their props, and that is not desired or wanted for a heli.
3) You want one that is compatable with your motor. Incompatabilities are becomming less of an issue, but if the spec says it is for a certain number of poles or less, make sure you under it. like I said , it is rare. If you do a search on a esc you are looking at, you will find out any problems.
4) You can't go wrong with a castle creation, or jazz, esc. But, with the premium features comes a premium price. Ask yourself if you need all the whizzy features. For a king 2, you probably don't need governor setups, and pc programmability.
5) make sure you can adjust the low voltage cutoff to do what YOU want it to do. Some have a feature that will cut out the main motor on low battery voltage. I personally don't like that. Smaller helis don't autorotate very well!
All that aside, there are some esc's out there that just become ones everyone uses due to price, or ease of use, and definately because of reliability.
6) make sure it and run the number of servos you will be using. With 4 servos on that king, you should get an esc with a 2-3 amp BESC. Optimally, you can run a seperate esc, at which point this becomes moot. Here is a good one I always use when running more than 3 servos:http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4319&Product_Name=TURNIGY_3A_UBEC_w/_Noise_Reduction

here are a couple esc's you can't go wrong with:
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=2163&Product_Name=TURNIGY__Plush_25amp_Speed_Controller
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=3731&Product_Name=TURNIGY_Basic_25A_v3.1_Speed_Controll er
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6460&Product_Name=SuperSimple_30A_ESC
http://www.helidirect.com/dynam-25a-brushless-esc-bec-2a5v-p-1299.hdx
http://www.helidirect.com/eflite-25amp-helicopter-brushless-esc-p-6535.hdx

That should move you in the right direction; and yes, a 25amp or higher align esc will work.
NOW, DO NOT GET A WAYPOINT OR GWS ESC FOR YOUR ESKY MOTOR!!!! For some reason, they do NOT like each other. I have tried 2 gws esc's with my esky motors, both failed. Waypoints are identical to gws under the skin.

dawin2122
04-16-2009, 11:00 PM
this is the speed control

basic
04-16-2009, 11:42 PM
that speed control should work just fine for that motor - check the manual for programming instructions -

manual can be found here - http://www.align.com.tw/html/en/assembly/rce-bl25ge.htm

basic
04-16-2009, 11:47 PM
if you would like some settings to start off with -

brake - none (bottom stick)
timing - mid (mid stick)
battery protection - high (bottom stick)
aircraft - heli 1 (mid stick)
throttle response - standard (bottom stick)

those settings should be good for now.

dawin2122
04-17-2009, 12:59 AM
if you would like some settings to start off with -

brake - none (bottom stick)
timing - mid (mid stick)
battery protection - high (bottom stick)
aircraft - heli 1 (mid stick)
throttle response - standard (bottom stick)

those settings should be good for now.

please and sorry but please let me step by step what can i do i got a dx7 tx the page you put in the link is dificult to read and a little confusing i am not very good english reader i am from Puerto Rico many thanks for the help

basic
04-17-2009, 07:28 AM
ok, here's a quick run down -

If you have any throttle curves set up in your radio - get rid of them for the purposes of programming the esc. They will mess things up.

Make sure the ESC is connected to the throttle channel of the receiver.
Make sure you don't have a pinion on the motor (but the motor is connected). Throttle is channel 1(I think) on the dx7.

Next - Power on the transmitter and put the throttle at full stick. Then plug the battery into the ESC. You should hear a bunch of beeps to let you know the ESC is in programming mode.

You then go through the settings above with the throttle stick - basically the stick starts at full up, then you would move it to bottom stick, then mid stick, then bottom stick, then mid stick, and then bottom stick again.

At this point programming is done and you unplug the esc from the battery, put the throttle stick back and down, and plug the battery back in to see if the ESC arms. If it does you should be able to hear a few beeps and then the motor will spin when you move the throttle stick.

IF when first programming the motor starts to spin (why you don't have a pinion on it) when moving from full stick down to bottom stick, then you weren't in programming mode and need to reverse the throttle channel on your receiver and start over. Make sure you unplug the battery from the ESC before doing this. After reversing the throttle channel, go through the steps above.

Hope this helps ya out.

ranger306ci
04-17-2009, 09:07 AM
Throttle is channel 3, pretty much always!

basic
04-17-2009, 10:24 AM
on the dx receivers, the throttle channel is labeled. on all of the skeptrum receivers i have seen the throttle is right next to the external battery hookup (used if you don't have an BEC and run a seperate receiver battery).

dawin2122
04-17-2009, 10:45 AM
on the dx receivers, the throttle channel is labeled. on all of the skeptrum receivers i have seen the throttle is right next to the external battery hookup (used if you don't have an BEC and run a seperate receiver battery).

throttle is in chanel 2

ranger306ci
04-17-2009, 05:37 PM
I stand corrected!

estarter
04-17-2009, 08:20 PM
Spektrum use the JR pattern, throttle is channel 1.

The AR6100(x) Rx, the first slot is for battery and binding, the sencod slot is for ch#1 (throttle).

estarter
04-17-2009, 08:24 PM
For Futaba, Hitec, Airtronic radios, throttle is on channel 3.

dawin2122
04-17-2009, 08:58 PM
Spektrum use the JR pattern, throttle is channel 1.

The AR6100(x) Rx, the first slot is for battery and binding, the sencod slot is for ch#1 (throttle).

thanks estarter i am beleive the batt channel counts on ch 1

dawin2122
04-17-2009, 09:02 PM
hi guys i am set the aling esc with my esky brushless motor and all fine at this time but yesterday i used a esc from a friend and got a little crash and now the heli did not got the tail steady and broken a horizontal tail fin maybe the servo(tail) moves a little

ranger306ci
04-20-2009, 10:58 AM
Are you saying your tail will not hold steady now?

dawin2122
04-20-2009, 11:38 AM
Are you saying your tail will not hold steady now?

yes but i find the padles losse and when i thight the heli got a tail control is this misscontrol is for the losse padles?

ranger306ci
04-20-2009, 06:30 PM
Which paddles? The tail blades? how is it misbehaving? Is the whole heli spinning? is the tail bouncing up and down or wagging right and left?

dawin2122
04-20-2009, 06:47 PM
Which paddles? The tail blades? how is it misbehaving? Is the whole heli spinning? is the tail bouncing up and down or wagging right and left?

this is the paddles

basic
04-20-2009, 10:30 PM
what heli is it again? The flybar paddles shouldn't cause your tail rotor to stop working, but if the flybar is bent or the paddles aren't on the same plane or something like that you will get a lot of issues with vibration and stuff that can mess up the gyro pretty bad. A little more info should be helpful.