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FlyingBlender
11-10-2006, 10:18 PM
So far I have had my Esky Lama for a couple of hours.

In that time I have managed to break off the tail boom.
And finally burn something out.
The servos work but theres no up and down from the electric motors.

Fried 4n1??
The 4 in 1 does seem to have a burnt smell.

Sheesh! :x

Ozzyeureka
11-11-2006, 01:47 AM
Mark the connecters so you can put all the bits back together properly, and then remove the 4 in 1. It is usually just taped in with double sided tape. Slip th e cover off the 4 in 1 and have a look at all teh chips carefully. You will probably find one or two have chips, cracks or holes in the plastic. If so, yep, you have a fried 4 in 1. This is caused by one of two things usually. Keeping the throttle on when you crash and have teh rotor blades stalled or jammed. Or just bad luck/bad design with underspecified or a faulty part. Teh last two things can worthy of a warranty claim, the first is not as the pilot caused it.
This is why some peopel put fuse in the wiring to the motors, but these are too slow to protect the chips usually. I think polyswitches or small SMD self resetting fuses are a better option. These are both lighter and smaller than fuses.
You can try for a warranty repair, but the truth is, most places will duck and weave to avoid the pain in the butt job of doing a warranty return. Its work they dont get paid for, hence their reticence to do anything.

The Broker
11-11-2006, 06:26 AM
so far I have had my Esky Lama for a couple of hours.
In that time I have managed to break off the tail boom.
And finally burn something out.

I can see why you are called FlyingBlender now :)

It is the most common newbie thing to keep the throttle on when you crash and like Ozzyeureka says I bet thats what you did.

Welcome to the world of heli's FlyingBlender, only in this hobby can you wait 2 weeks for a heli to arrive, spend 30 secs in the air and then need a new part. We have all been there at some time. :cry:

FlyingBlender
11-11-2006, 07:36 AM
I live in California. Anybody interested in a burnout Esky Lama v3 with a broken tailboom for parts?
Transmitter Frequency is 72.490.
Has an extra Battery.

Ozzyeureka
11-13-2006, 03:49 AM
Keep it, and buy another one. Use your old one for spares as there is over $100 worth of spare parts still there.
And dont go feeling bad or down about crashing and breaking the heli. That is all part of learning. I fyou think it is too hard, either get some one to help you learn or put it aside for a week or two and have another go.
But being scared of the crash and break cycle is no reason to give up. We have all been there, done that. No ones laughing and no one is surprised, because guess what - YOUR NORMAL!

Ranger
11-13-2006, 04:13 AM
Hi FlyingBlender,

If I were in your position, I wouldn't feel too bad, Not after what I almost did! My first heli is a Raptor 50v2, I built it and then put a scale fuse on it and was going to attempt to fly it. Could you imagine what I would have done to it?
I already crashed Mrs Ranger's vortex 37 (fixed it)
Ozzyeureka is right, Keep it and get another one.
Regards, Glen

FlyingBlender
11-13-2006, 06:42 AM
I have a new 4 in 1 coming in the mail.
Eventually I may buy another one once I become more proficient at flying this one.
The main reason I burnt out the 4in1 after the crash is that I thought I had to disconnect the battery quickly.
I didn't realize I had to cut throttle really quickly.

Like my name implies (Flyingblender) if all else fail I can flip the helicopter
over and use it to make magaritas!

Thanks
Robert :D

The Broker
11-13-2006, 06:56 AM
No ones laughing and no one is surprised, because guess what - YOUR NORMAL!

I am not sure we are normal actually, I don't think any heli person is normal thats what makes us great. :lol: :lol:

Sorry Ozzyeureka I just couldnt resist saying that :oops:

Sue

swatson144
11-13-2006, 12:43 PM
Flyingblender, Loosing a 4n1 on the 1st day is a pretty big letdown. I'd recommend not actually rushing into flight when you get it all fixed up but take it easy and learn to hover. With a coaxial it should come pretty quickly. If you can't hover you can't land, ergo every flight ends in a crash. lifting off and allowing only a couple square feet of area, and no more than 2' of altitude is a very good idea. once you leave that area chop the throttle and let it fall. You'll break less and have more fun. The low altitude low speed crashes should be mostly harmless. That's pretty much the way I train people on my coronas. You may occasionally get unlucky and break something by fluke. Far and away the most breakage comes from soon after getting a few seconds in the air and trying to "save" it for a longer flight. Land it put it back in the zone and try again. Lots of chances to learn recovery later when you are better equiped for it.

Steve

Ozzyeureka
11-14-2006, 03:24 AM
NOw I see the problem Flyingbender.
Make that margurita first, imbibe fully, and then try to fly.

And then try flying the heli.

Good news about the new 4 in 1 , let us know how you go.