Walkera # 60

[soneebee]

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/soneebee/d3dbb625.jpg

How good is this heli? Have seen alot of advancements made into this heli over its older brother the #36 with the inclusion of an aluminum body 3 new micro servos WK-7.6-3 and one high speed servo for the tail rudder, single main gear design, belt driven tail shaft, a new WK-006 GYRO with AVCS the new 7Ch TX and RX plus separate ESC no more 3 in one. with aluminum belt guide and pulleys

Has anyone tried this heli? I know it will be as good or alot better that the #36, but how good is it really.

[Jack10525]

Is that one pictured yours? If so, you tell us. I just bought a 36 and it seems pretty decent. I have no comparisons to trex or anything else. This is my first heli. I have already crashed it a few time and am now waiting for parts. If I was a better pilot I'm sure it would fly very well. It looks to be made pretty well. Maybe walkera got all the bugs out. Keep us updated because that will probably be my next heli.

[soneebee]

Yup this is my 60 when it first arrived, I also have the 36 here for review and testing. It is a good heli and can fly easily, i you want we can open another thread for the 36 users...
I had the 60 for quite sometime now and its been a really good heli, parts are more simple that the 36, I have a lot of info on this heli and all the upgrades.. on the other forums...
her is my 60 now after all the upgrades made on it.. it still flies well and has better collective response...

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/soneebee/DSC02490.jpg


Is that one pictured yours? If so, you tell us. I just bought a 36 and it seems pretty decent. I have no comparisons to trex or anything else. This is my first heli. I have already crashed it a few time and am now waiting for parts. If I was a better pilot I'm sure it would fly very well. It looks to be made pretty well. Maybe walkera got all the bugs out. Keep us updated because that will probably be my next heli.

[hoverdown3k]

what do you think of the Walkera #60?

[soneebee]

I find the DF60 to be a good heli to practice on doe FFF and FF and hovering. But I cannot say that it is a good 3D heli. It lacks the spunk that the TREX has, Better electrics is more advised to be able to see the full potential of the heli[/quote]

[thanhTran]

I like the way it looks. Does it come with all electronics? Soneebee, the canopy of your looks great. Is the paint stock or yours?
Is the frame metal or plastic?

Thanks

Thanh

[soneebee]

I got the canopy painted with airbrush 2 colors, paint is inside the transparent canopy. so it will be slick finish and glossy, The frame is stock
walkera made it with aluminum, top and bottom frame. The head and tail assembly is all made of aluminum too...

I like the way it looks. Does it come with all electronics? Soneebee, the canopy of your looks great. Is the paint stock or yours?
Is the frame metal or plastic?

Thanks

Thanh

[thanhTran]

Thanks very much for the info Soneebee. The painjob you did is awesome! The heli looks great too.

[soneebee]

Thanks thanhTran

Thanks very much for the info Soneebee. The painjob you did is awesome! The heli looks great too.

[zooland1]

How do you think the mechanics compare to a Trex? Is the gyro HH?

[soneebee]

Well i cannot compare it head to head, I am sure the TREX has better parts built on it.. I have the SE parts with me and see that the CNC is better than that of the aluminum founf on the walkera head. On the Mixing. the walkera head seem to be good in design veru stable in flight, but as a negative the aluminum material is soft and the mixing arm tends to loosen up during flights, too tight will cause the flybar not to move so it should be tighten up in an measured amount of torque.. but thru time and vibrations this loosens up so you have to check out the head parts always.. but the moving flybar design seems to be promising...

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/soneebee/CNCHeadassembly.png

the GY-006 gyro is a HH, it took the name from Futaba AVCS, but ehy i set it to HH with the TX rudder mix off.. there is still rudder mix when you increase throttle... seems to be not working correctly.....



How do you think the mechanics compare to a Trex? Is the gyro HH?

[Jakesdt]

Does anybody know of hand how many teeth does the walkera 36's main gear have ?

[zooland1]

the GY-006 gyro is a HH, it took the name from Futaba AVCS, but ehy i set it to HH with the TX rudder mix off.. there is still rudder mix when you increase throttle... seems to be not working correctly.....
I knew I had asked this question somewhere, but couldn't remember where. Just found it after post a new thread. Maybe we can get some more detail there. Did you get the gyro figured out? What worries me is that if there is a problem with defective units, will the company back them up? I bought a DF22 two years ago that came with a defective 3-in-1 unit. They never replaced the bad unit and I finally trashed the whole heli and converted it with parts from my blade.

[soneebee]

If i am not mistaken it has 136T on the main gear....[

quote="Jakesdt"]Does anybody know of hand how many teeth does the walkera 36's main gear have ?[/quote]

[soneebee]

Well honestly if you are to get it replaced by walkera it seems to be a very hard thing to do.. I have tried that before on the 60 with a defective TX, I mailed there support team and sales.. well got a reply that is not acceptable.. The TX was new and out of the box. they want me to ship it to them for repairs.. well i did not like the idea of a new item getting repaired..at the end i just repaired the TX myself... It also happened on the 36 got it out of the box and had a defective TX same thing.. i just repaired it also... Actually it depends on the dealer you got the parts from. if they are really good people they just send you a new replacement part if there is really a defect. It just a matter of who you got the parts from....


the GY-006 gyro is a HH, it took the name from Futaba AVCS, but ehy i set it to HH with the TX rudder mix off.. there is still rudder mix when you increase throttle... seems to be not working correctly.....
I knew I had asked this question somewhere, but couldn't remember where. Just found it after post a new thread. Maybe we can get some more detail there. Did you get the gyro figured out? What worries me is that if there is a problem with defective units, will the company back them up? I bought a DF22 two years ago that came with a defective 3-in-1 unit. They never replaced the bad unit and I finally trashed the whole heli and converted it with parts from my blade.

[mallmagician]

Hi folks,

Just bought the Walkera 60 from a local dealer her in Chiang Mai, Thailand.

I charged the battery a bit, and tried to follow the pathetic manual to get the thing off the ground.

I am a complete Newbie and am puzzled. When I connected the battery to the main unit it made a couple if noises, like it was reseting itself etc.

I put the plastic nose back on and set the copter in the garden. I stood well back with the controller, and tried to get the blades to spin, they wouldn't.

On closer inspection, I found a button coming off the brush speed controller. I pushed it and now had a red led flashing on through the plastic on the speed controller. Had red light showing on the Giro too.

Still wouldn't spin or do anything?

What am I doing wrong?

Someone could make a fortune by selling instructions for this thing that were in real understandable English!

:)

Thanks in Advance

[eddiemoth]

mallmagician,
I don't have a Walkera60 but until the Walkera60 experts see your questions, check a couple of things. Did the noice come from the motor? If the noice from the motor, you might be entering the ESC program mode. Did you have the throttle stick and trim at the lowest position? If it was in the program mode and you moved the throttle stick, you might have changed the default ESC settings. Please try again with the throttle stick and trim on your radio at the lowest position.

[balance_mind]

mallmagician
The noise you have heard might be from the servos centering itself. Before you plug the battery into the heli, make sure you "on" the Tx. The throttle and it's trim is at the lowest point. The rest of the trims at neutral. The motor won't start if the throttle is not at the lowest point. The red button from the ESC is to ready the motor. You should be able to spin the rotor now. Hope it helps.
You may also like to ask Soneebee. He has one and he's got lots of experience on it.

[soneebee]

Hello guys... Hello mallmagician, I think balance_mind and eddiemoth replies are correct you might not have set the throttle trims all the way down.. its fail safe mechanism for this heli not to start the blades when the throttle trims are up and even the throttle stick. this is to make sure that the blades will not power up when you plug the battery... another one is check if the 3D mode switch is at normal.. if this is set to 1 or 3D mode the heli motor will not also start.

hope this works out....

happy flying ...

[mallmagician]

Hi,

I found out what it was. The Crystal in the Receiver unit is not connecting well. When i push down on the end of it, the copter functions ok (While strapped to an ironing board!).

I would like to know a few things. Firstly, I want to get the copter in full EASY mode, i.e. NORMAL. But there are 12 switches on the back of the TX. Please can someone tell me which to have on, and which to have off. (I assume to the right is on?)

Also, does anyone know how I may fix the crystal connection problem without having to resort to a new Receiver Relay? Better still, how do I get the friggin crystal out of the unit without specialist equipment. Maybe if I clean it, and flip it, it will connect better? I live in Thailand, and don't have loads of household pliers or suchlike at hand!

Thanks in advance, hopefully tomorrow I will get this puppy upto the great height of 1 foot ( I WOULD be happy at this!) :)

Thanks Again

Phil

[Sleepstalker]

Hmmm this sounds like a cold solder joint problem Most reciever crystals are socketed and will pull out with a minimum of effort if yours is soldered it could just mean a cold solder joint and all you need to do is have a good gun and some soldering skills to reheat the existing solder. It could also be a crack across the traces on the pcb board. You already have the area pinpointed in the worst situation take the unit to a GOOD electronics repair place and they will trace and repair....Make sure they listen to you...not just nod and say Okie-Dokie.... 8)

[soneebee]

The Crystal normally can be pulle out with the use of some long nose or pin pliers.. if you dont have one you can use the cover just add something like tape of paper to fit it with the crystal and pull it out.. normally if you remove the cover of the crystal bay from the RX you partially pull out the crystal but it reality when you plug in the cover it pushes the crystal to the socket and connection should be good.....

Hi,

I found out what it was. The Crystal in the Receiver unit is not connecting well. When i push down on the end of it, the copter functions ok (While strapped to an ironing board!).

I would like to know a few things. Firstly, I want to get the copter in full EASY mode, i.e. NORMAL. But there are 12 switches on the back of the TX. Please can someone tell me which to have on, and which to have off. (I assume to the right is on?)

Also, does anyone know how I may fix the crystal connection problem without having to resort to a new Receiver Relay? Better still, how do I get the friggin crystal out of the unit without specialist equipment. Maybe if I clean it, and flip it, it will connect better? I live in Thailand, and don't have loads of household pliers or suchlike at hand!

Thanks in advance, hopefully tomorrow I will get this puppy upto the great height of 1 foot ( I WOULD be happy at this!) :)

Thanks Again

Phil

[balance_mind]

Hi Soneebee and all

Do you know how to check in proper that the crystal pot is working in the Tx other than checking for cold shoulder? The crystal is definitely working. The receiver(607) is also working but the Tx(701) just can't establish a link with it.

Thanks

[soneebee]

On the TX side you can check if the solder on the socket is good on the board but you have to open up the TX... is there a problem with the communication between the TX and RX? how come the TX cannot establish a link.. ? are there no servo movements during communication ??



Hi Soneebee and all

Do you know how to check in proper that the crystal pot is working in the Tx other than checking for cold shoulder? The crystal is definitely working. The receiver(607) is also working but the Tx(701) just can't establish a link with it.

Thanks

[balance_mind]

Everything seems fine when switched on, purple LED but no movements on the cyclis, pitch and motor. I do not think the link is established between the Tx and Rx. The Gyro (006) keeps blinking. But when I change to another Tx, everything is ok. So my guess is the crystal not connecting well.

[soneebee]

there might be something wrong with the TX.. how do you chage TX? do you have 1 WK-0701's ? if you have another set of Crystals you can test if or swap .. so youll be sure that the TX is working and the crystal is not...

Everything seems fine when switched on, purple LED but no movements on the cyclis, pitch and motor. I do not think the link is established between the Tx and Rx. The Gyro (006) keeps blinking. But when I change to another Tx, everything is ok. So my guess is the crystal not connecting well.

[balance_mind]

Yup, I have another WK701 Tx. Swop a different crystal too. All are ok except when using that particular Tx. No comms. Cystals definitely working. Hopefully it's only the Cystal pots.
Hate to troubleshoot the Tx board. Any ideals?

there might be something wrong with the TX.. how do you chage TX? do you have 1 WK-0701's ? if you have another set of Crystals you can test if or swap .. so youll be sure that the TX is working and the crystal is not...

Everything seems fine when switched on, purple LED but no movements on the cyclis, pitch and motor. I do not think the link is established between the Tx and Rx. The Gyro (006) keeps blinking. But when I change to another Tx, everything is ok. So my guess is the crystal not connecting well.

[soneebee]

There might be something wrong with the crystal.. did you drop it somehow? well if its not working on both TX then the crystal might be already busted.. you can get another pair to use on the TX.. this crystals are very sensitive to drop.. the insides seem to break when it shared or dropped... good thing that its only the crystal its hard it the crystal controller on the TX got busted....

[balance_mind]

Never dropped them. The crystals are working on one Tx but not on the other. Should be the Tx problem.

I think I also know another cause but need to try when I get back hme the next few weeks to confirm

There might be something wrong with the crystal.. did you drop it somehow? well if its not working on both TX then the crystal might be already busted.. you can get another pair to use on the TX.. this crystals are very sensitive to drop.. the insides seem to break when it shared or dropped... good thing that its only the crystal its hard it the crystal controller on the TX got busted....

[soneebee]

well there is a problem with one of your TX, better check on the socket must have a cold solder...


Never dropped them. The crystals are working on one Tx but not on the other. Should be the Tx problem.

I think I also know another cause but need to try when I get back hme the next few weeks to confirm

[soneebee]

Hello Guys.... have been very busy with the 36 so forgot to post some stuff i did with the 60, For not its working like a charm. with full AVCS and no more revo mixing the tail seem to hold quite well.. on the side of the heli.. well i did some customer sticker i added on the canopy.. it seem to be looking great.. I dont think i will add more since it seem to cover a good amount of space already.. but still it looks good for me....

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/soneebee/Dsc02940.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/soneebee/Dsc02938.jpg

happy flying guys.....

[eddiemoth]

Sweet Sonebee! I now begin to get more interested in Walkera 60. I'll keep checking. I also like the Plumeria and Papaja trees in the background.

[Sleepstalker]

Nice job on the canopy Soneebee and the wiring looks nicely tied up too , the head design looks a little like the Avant programmable head that the big boys play with...600..700 ml blades . Also the rotor head on that "Mars 480" thread looks similar. I wonder if this design is the direction rotor heads are gonna go?
Check out the Avant here...http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/acatalog/HeliSprs_Avant.html

[soneebee]

Thanks eddiemoth... I found the new decals and color made the 60 more interesting....


Sweet Sonebee! I now begin to get more interested in Walkera 60. I'll keep checking. I also like the Plumeria and Papaja trees in the background.

[soneebee]

Thanks sleepstalker, have looked at the link on the head.. that Avant head really looks good. I think they have a different way of mixing.. the Avant head looks to be very advance and simple in design.. but it cost a lot too...

Nice job on the canopy Soneebee and the wiring looks nicely tied up too , the head design looks a little like the Avant programmable head that the big boys play with...600..700 ml blades . Also the rotor head on that "Mars 480" thread looks similar. I wonder if this design is the direction rotor heads are gonna go?
Check out the Avant here...http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/acatalog/HeliSprs_Avant.html

[soneebee]

Well did some modification on the #60, got the free parts to upgrade my rudder servo and move it to the tail so there will be better controls. also am using a larger canopy so i can fit the bigger lipo battery on the heli kinda good though but my heli is now all CF and Aluminum.. kinda black... lacks the color.....


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/soneebee/Dsc03033.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/soneebee/DSC03032.jpg

even tried this review blades... something new and looking good at night

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/soneebee/DSC03036.jpg

[eddiemoth]

Nice. It now looks like a Trex SE with the black CP canopy. Is that the Trex canopy?

[soneebee]

Yup eddiemoth its the Align TREX 3K carbon fiber canopy.. fits okay with the 60 mounts only need to add some velcro on the bottom to hold the canopy better from the bottom frame...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJIImj7I1X8

[soneebee]

I have set up finished setting up the 60 with the futaba TX.. It is really better in performance easy to adjust and make things work even without the manual..

[eddiemoth]

soneebee, nice videos. I checked out your other videos there as well. It seems like you have it for a while now. It is nice to have a big front yard to fly it around the house. What is the old TX you used?

[soneebee]

hello eddiemoth, thanks ...well the front yard is small to do FF and FFF only some small hovering.. before I was using the stock Walkera TX. WK-701.... but on the 60 its still the same radio gear....

soneebee, nice videos. I checked out your other videos there as well. It seems like you have it for a while now. It is nice to have a big front yard to fly it around the house. What is the old TX you used?

[dannybee]

i have recently put tyhe cnc metal head on my walkera 60 i have followed all the instructions but it now has a negitive pitch when i throttle up instead of positive dose anyone know how to fix this?

[eddiemoth]

dannybee to Helitown,
Soneebee is the Walkera 60 expert but can you check to see if you installed the servo correctly. If it came installed, check to see if you can change the direction of the channel that has the collective servo on your TX (REV vs. NOR).

[soneebee]

Hello Dannybee... I have the metal head on my 60 too.. I set all the setting as on the manual I made and it really has to move on the other way the swash move down in order to get positive pitch on the blades.. it mixes differently.. so i guess your mixing moves up... what servos are you using? are you usign a different radio?

[soneebee]

The rain stopped and at last i can fly my heli again.. Have tried to fly my Df60 with the new tail mounted gyro plate I made.. It was stable and flies okay.. I have set the gyro gain to 90% and also set teh throttle and pitch curve to the best settings i can do on the head without bubbling... well it kinda easy to fly.. very stable... and with tail boom mounted servo the rudder servo seems to work less....

very good test.. the only thing I have to wait is the DF60B frame to make it more sturdy in FF and sport flying...next will be a test on the flying field for FF....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgJQ4Frt7MA